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Posts: 230 10/15/06 5:54 Denizen |
This is off-topic but I have had it with the inexplicable popularity of "post-grunge" music. These are the bands whose primary influences seem to be Nickelback and Creed and that's it. It's artless, sterile, horrible garbage.
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harlequin deva |
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Posts: 140 10/15/06 6:07 Denizen |
I agree
"These violent delights have violent ends.
And in their triumph die, like fire and powder, Which, as they kiss, consume" -Romeo and Juliet |
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DerekRuthven |
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Posts: 230 10/15/06 7:41 Denizen |
I'd also like to add before anyone says, "listen to CDs instead of the radio," part of my problem with these hacks is that I am tired of seeing them financially rewarded for their sub-mediocre music.
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Ghostlord6 |
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Posts: 31 10/16/06 3:30 Denizen |
Post-grunge? Does that stuff they call Emo fit into this catagory? I really started to feel old when all of a sudden everyone started talking about this thing called Emo, and I had no idea what it was/is.
But I didn't much care for grunge too much either. Guess I am not much of a mainstream music kinda guy. |
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Madame Mara |
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Posts: 704 10/16/06 9:33 Darkling |
Grunge was once a very beautiful thing, a gift really.
See, back in the late 80s, there was precious little variety to mainstream music. You had the BigHair Rock variety (Whitesnake/Poison/any guy band that used lots of hairspray and fog machines). And you had New Wave/Punk/Techno, which was really something different. And you had Pop ("Walkin on Sunshine" ring any bells?) And then... glorious then... Nirvana came along. And there was a New Sound to Rock, and 'lo the sound was born, and they came to name the sound Alternative Rock. But it was the people who gave it its true name, Grunge (Seattle, circa 1991, grunge was the scene, it was It, it was Different for !$c&'s sake). And from this humble new sound, a plethora of bands did emerge... and the sound adapted and changed, and was embraced into mainstream everywhere... more, more more! But now... oh sad times... now, we are back to the predictament of the late 80's... all the bands look and sound the same. No more big hair and fog machines... now it is All Grunge/Alternative. And it has been for 15 years. It's Time for Change. After all, when Alternative=Mainstream... it ain't alternative any more. We need the next wave to come and save us, and it isn't here yet. Have faith, music reinvents itself in good time, but Grunge has had a particularly long run when compared to other music forms (disco, punk, 80s metal). I am hopeful for the next invention's arrival... any... moment. It just takes one very talented band, and one very open-minded record label.... "And the girl in the corner is ev'ryone's mourner
She could kill you with a wink of her eye..." - Calibretto 13 |
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Isoteru |
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Posts: 44 10/16/06 11:30 Denizen |
Go for the underdog..
For those of you that are interested in some new sounds, look up Savi0r, Shadowchylde, and Form on Myspace. |
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DerekRuthven |
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Posts: 230 10/16/06 6:51 Denizen |
Mara's post hit so many good points on this subject. Now, I have to admit that I didn't particularly care for even the initial "grunge" bands...even then it was a sound I had to grow to appreciate. Even now, I think I can live my life without hearing another Nirvana song ever again. But one thing that first run of bands had was integrity. They weren't just pooping it out to sell albums, in fact it was sometimes just the opposite of that.
That whole grungy sound, it came as part of the package because those bands couldn't afford better production. It wasn't because it was the fashionable thing to do. But when the mainstream took that grunge sound, and none of the humor and irony that marked a lot of Cobain's songs, and fixed it to something that sounded like Grand Funk Railroad...well, rock died. Bands like Theory of a Deadman sound like what grunge would be like if punk never happened. |
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JCRME |
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Posts: 575 10/17/06 2:59 Denizen |
I hate to jump off topic here, but I'll throw in a few cents. I never was a Nirvana fan. Grunge didn't appeal to me. I don't feel "qualified" to say "Die post-grunge, die" because I never got into the grunge sound enough to like it in the first place and to thus be disappointed in the post grunge sound... However I HAVE been exposed to the sound, and did not care all that much for it. Therefore....
(Here comes the plug) Sounds like this are why I am so happy to have discovered Nox Arcana. At last there there was and is a band who does superb 'darker' music that rests on melody and sheer beauty and honest to goodness emotional power. Its also why I got into so much ethnic/World music. (IE: Celtic, Latin Japanese, Native American, etc) as well as Medieval/Renaissance stuff. I sought something different because I became , for the most part, quite disenchanted with "modern" music.... so I looked "back"... and Nox Arcana is part of that process of "looking back. They are a rare and precious gem that I came across in the process of my searching for something that appealed to me and that was different. They may be a "present-day" band, but their music to me bears a.... a sensibility akin to ancient minstrels... whose music, melody and power carry the ability to tell the best of musical "stories" as only the best bards in times of yore could do. |
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DerekRuthven |
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Posts: 230 10/17/06 10:52 Denizen |
I don't feel "qualified" to say "Die post-grunge, die" because I never got into the grunge sound enough to like it in the first place and to thus be disappointed in the post grunge sound
BTW, I'd like to go ahead and say that I wasn't particularly a fan of the original grunge sound. I'm not disappointed that these post-grunge bands are not living up to their fore-runners...I'm just mad that this garbage has infested hard rock radio. It's like, there is a new Iron Maiden album out, and how many times have I heard their (great) new single on the radio? None. On the other hand, how many times have I heard Nickelback's latest crapfest? Don't get me started  And then there are countless good hard rock bands out there that don't get support, have to work day jobs, etc. while these no-talent *&&^*&%^&* are being rewarded financially. |
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Isoteru |
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Posts: 44 10/18/06 12:37 Denizen |
Bless you Derek ^.~
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DerekRuthven |
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Posts: 230 03/21/07 10:05 Denizen |
I just want to jump in and say, Hinder is mindblowingly horrible. I hate how the music industry suits are selling this crapfest as a "return to 80's rock like Guns N Roses and Motley Crue." It's the same ol' Nickelback garbage the masses have been spoonfed for 10 years, but since the media SAYS its like 80's rock, people are buying into the lies.
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